I found a great article recently posted to Wale’s Facebook page titled “Nothing Really Matters” and it was pure gold. Jerry Seinfeld sitting down in a coffee shop with the D.C. rapper, Jerry gives Wale a little bit of career advice, and in typical Seinfeld fashion, it is hysterical…
Hip-Hop fans may remember an incident in 2013, when Wale called Complex magazine and threatened their staff, because his album The Gifted wasn’t on their “50 Best Albums of 2013” list. The call went viral, and now Complex is revealing that Jerry Seinfeld might have had something to do with it!
At first glance these two couldn’t seem more different, but Jerry’s life lessons have spawned entire tracks on Wale’s albums. In 2008, Wale released The Mixtape About Nothing, which featured clips from the show Seinfeld, Jerry’s stand-up monologues, and even a cameo by Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
After hearing the mixtape, Seinfeld arranged to meet Wale backstage at a gig in Baltimore later that year. They discussed working together on The Album About Nothing, and Jerry actually appeared on The Gifted’s “Outro About Nothing,” where Jerry is perplexed that he’s shown up to record vocals and Wale isn’t ready to start the project.
The unusual friendship is further evidence that Seinfeld was truly a unique show. One that transcended generational and cultural divides, sustaining its popularity despite not making an episode in 16 years. The show featured relatable characters who were totally consistent throughout the series. They were constantly challenging the absurdity of society in a way that made you say “that is so true.” And they even followed their own advice and went out on a high note. The title of the article says it all, nothing really matters.
Some of our favorite quotes from the interview by Joe La Puma:
Was it funny that something you did in the ’90s came back now?
JS: Kind of funny, but kind of sad that we’re always looking back for a new idea.
W: It goes back to the idea that everything’s been done, essentially.
JS: Well, that’s not true, either.
W: You don’t think so?
JS: Everything’s been done? Then why get up in the morning?
W: Do it different. Find a new way to do something that’s been done.
JS: Or do something that’s never been done.
Do you read your Twitter mentions and look at hate?
JS: Yeah. It has no substance for me. It’s like when somebody has a cigarette and they blow the smoke in your face. It’s going to be gone in two seconds. I don’t care. [Looks at Wale.] Oh, he’s upset. [Laughs.]
W: I handle it differently. It’s different!
JS: Why do you give these people meaning?
W: I don’t know, Jerry. I don’t know.
JS: You don’t have to! It’s your choice.
W: I try to rationalize with people. Like, “Why do you feel this way?”
JS: Who cares!?
When’s the last time you were in a strip club, Jerry?
JS: A bachelor party in the mid-’90s. I went reluctantly. You know, you go there and it’s just…you know.
W: It’s not all it’s cracked up to be sometimes.
JS: It’s exactly what it’s cracked up to be. It’s just not cracked up that high.
W: Well, Magic City is an experience.
JS: Is that in Atlanta? I don’t know what that is. But I know what girls are
With the two mixtapes paying homage to Seinfeld, and your real-life friendship, was the collaboration on Wale’s new album always bound to happen?
JS: There’s no collaborating, it’s his album.
JS: He asked me to be part of it and talk. It’s his gift, I’m just a bystander. I love being around him and watching how he does it because it’s different from what I do. It’s a whole different process.
W: I’m funneling his wisdom. I talk to Jerry and I listen. Then I go to the studio and capture those moments. What do I agree with? Am I conveying this message to a broader audience? It’s like a writing drill. Jerry talks in metaphor a lot. When “this” is like “that,” it’s easy for everybody to understand.
JS: When I did the TV series, there was a writer on the show named Larry Charles. He said that if I were a superhero, I’d be “Analogy Lad.” If you had a problem, Analogy Lad would bust into the wall and say, “You know what this is like?” He can’t help you, but he’ll tell you exactly what it’s like.
Jerry, you dismiss the burden of celebrity. Wale does not. What advice would you give him to help him deal with it?
JS: This is why the universe put us together. I am here to relieve you of this burden.
W: I’m listening. I would love to hear this part.
JS: It’s just a choice.
W: I don’t understand the world’s fascination with celebrity. My admiration for people like you or Jay Z is because of your talent. Now, people are famous without having talent.
JS: There’s a fame need. We need people to look at or talk about to just fill the time. They say life is too short. It’s way too long! And we’re filling it in with a lot of fake stuff. Like wrestling. Like stars who have no talent!
JS: Shoe-trying-on. There’s a lot of stuff. Maybe I’ll jump, maybe I won’t. We have to come up with things to fill in the time. There are old people sitting on cruise ships, doing crossword puzzles, just trying to finish it up. [Wale laughs.] They didn’t want all that time! But it’s there. That’s why there are a lot of no-talent celebrities, just to fill in the air. We’ve got too much time, too much space. Too many gigabytes.
JS: I love when he says “respect.”